Religious Freedom-October 23, 2013

Religious Freedom-October 23, 2013

Matthew 22:15-22; Romans 13:1-7; Revelation 13:9-10

Religious Freedom

“The historical affirmation OF religion, freedom FOR religion, and freedom FROM religion, insisting that Caesar is not Christ and Christ is not Caesar.”-Walter Shurden

Religious Freedom

  • Matthew 22:15-22
  • Romans 13:1-7
  • Revelation 13:9-10

Religious Freedom

  • Lessons from history

-Our founders had experiences with state established religions

-The Adoption of the Bill of Rights

-The Constitution

-Baptist’s influence on the Bill of Rights

 The Witness to Religious Freedom

  • The teaching of individualism is what validates religious freedom
  • Many throughout history have supported religious freedom

-John Smyth and Thomas Helwys-17th Century

-Roger Williams, Obadiah Holmes-17th Century, USA

  • 18-19th Century-Baptist stood up for religious freedom-John Leland, Isaac Backus
  • 20th-Century Baptists-George Truett, James Dunn

The Foundations of Religious Freedom

  • This view that people should have a right to believe without force, to practice their faith on their own free will, to spread their faith without anyone telling them no is a new and modern view.  It hasn’t always been this way.
  • People have used the Bible to argue against Religious Freedom.
  • This view of Religious Freedom is the Biblical view!

-The nature of God

-the nature of humanity

-the nature of faith

The Meaning of Religious Freedom

  • Freedom of Religion is a commitment to complete religious freedom and not religious toleration.
  • Religious liberty must be for all and not just the majority-even non-Christians!
  • Religious freedom means separation of church and state and not accommodation of church with the state.

-Church above the state-medieval era.

-Church under the state-communism.

-Accommodation of a particular church with the state-Anglican church in England

-Separation of church and state-American Model

Baptists today and threats to Religious Freedom

  • A danger exists in thinking there is no danger.
  • There are many who disagree with separation of church and state.
  • Another danger is the confusion of citizenship with discipleship

Controversies Today

  • Prayer in schools
  • Public dollars for religious causes
  • Religious symbols in civil contexts
  • The debate about a “Christian” America
  • Religious Freedom exists to insure each person’s right to worship and serve God
  • The way to win people to Christ is not by force



October 20, 2013-How Shall We Live? By the Words of Life!

October 20, 2013-2 Timothy 3:14:4:5

How Shall We Live?  By the Words of Life!

261-Wonderful Words of Life

338-How Firm A Foundation

294-Have Thine Own Way

Continue in learning that we will become more convinced day-by-day in faith.  These are the things found in the holy Scriptures, which point us (teach us) about salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

It is Paul the old Pharisee telling young Timothy that he was once convinced of something different but after studying the scriptures (not his traditions stance) that he began to see that God’s word was pointing toward Jesus as the Messiah.  Paul tells Timothy he was fortunate because he had been taught this since a very young age.  You can always confirm truth with the word of God.  Salvation has come to you and to me through faith in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is God-breathed, because it is God breathed it is useful.  The word of God is always useful it is not life a self-help book, because if any of those worked there wouldn’t need to be so many.  It is a book about God’s help, God’s strength, and God’s provision.  It is the only true place to go for direction.  If you do not know your true location it will be hard to find direction.

There is always a debate about teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.  There is no true teaching, rebuking, correcting or training in righteousness that does not also condemn the instructor, unless the source of these goes beyond the instructor to the true source of all.  If the source is not found in our Holy God, then it may teach, rebuke, correct, and train but it will not be in righteousness.  There is only One righteous and so we must trust as the source, not our ideas or opinions or trends but we must trust the steady word of the creator of the universe.

These four things listed here are not meant to be negative although there will be many who want to think of them this way.  There is a purpose for all of this teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness to firm up and strengthen our relationship with God, so that we do not point people back to us or our opinions but to God Himself who receives the glory.  The purpose then is to strengthen our relationship with God and others.  “So that the man (woman) of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

So that the man (woman) of God may be thoroughly equipped.  This first part indicates that this is for the Christian, for the believer.  Often part of the problem is we want to think that rebuking, correcting, is for people worse than us, which in most cases then we to turn to chastising unbelievers.  Let’s start by saying that it is not for them that this passage was written.  You can’t expect an unbeliever to live, act, and love like a believer, because they are not believers.  But the question may be are believers themselves living, acting, and loving this way?  This ought to help us to better demonstrate the wonderful grace of God to them.

Man and woman of God we have been given God’s word first to point us to the saving work of God through Christ Jesus and then to equip us for His good works of service by using His word for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness.  There are also many Christians who believe it is the job of the Pastor to do these things, and I am not qualified.  What we are really saying is we are not equipped to do this or that.

The truth is the word of God equips us and that’s why we must spend more time than just a cursory glance through the Bible.  Don’t get me wrong daily devotions are not bad, but they should not take the place of longer readings, studying, meditation, and journal writing.  Take time to write down what you think this scripture meant to the original audience, to our world today, and then to you personally.  You will find that this type of reflections will begin to grow your hunger for God’s word.  Our discernment as we read it will increase, and we will find more value in God’s word because you have more invested in it, and that investment will pay off.

Paul charges Timothy in the presence of God and Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and because of his appearing and kingdom.   Paul instructs Timothy

  1. Preach the Word-it is how the world will learn of God’s great love in Christ and His Salvation.
  2. Be prepared in season and out of season-this is about a lifelong love for God’s word, do not just be prepared in season (like at church, an evangelistic event, or mission trip), but also out of season (anytime) like at the bank, grocery store, work, coffee shop, library, vet’s office, pizza place, or any place or time that you might encounter someone who is dealing with life.
  3. Correct, Rebuke, and Encourage-with great patience and careful instruction-correction and rebuking should always been done in such a way as to also encourage.  Far too often we want to correct or rebuke but are not quick to encourage.  The most effective corrections and rebukes are themselves really not condemnations but encouragements to do something differently or to refocus us to Christ and His ways.  This should also be done with careful instruction.  Careful instruction does not happen without good equipping.

Why is any of this important you might be asking yourself?  What is the deal with this crazy preacher?  It is important because a time is coming and is here when men will not put up with sound doctrine.  Sound doctrine is not something that we put up with but grow to love.  It is about growing in maturing in Christ.  Obedience is not something many want to practice.  People will then put around themselves the prophets that will echo their empty words back to them.  They will echo because they are hollow, and the people will set before themselves those who will give words of comfort not words of life.  If you think about it the most often times we hear people speak of “words of comfort” are for grieving a death.  We should be cautious to have comfort as our primary goal, comfort may temporarily alleviate the symptoms of pain but the underlying reality must be dealt with by the only who is able.  An echo is different from having the fullness of God speak through you.

The wisdom received from this approach will only go as far as man’s wisdom or even less the limited desires of a few.  Telling people what they want to hear is not wisdom, unless what they want to hear is from God, anything else is not wisdom and will not lead to life but to death.  Paul just reminded Timothy and us that we should trust the wisdom of the one who is the judge.  If you were to do something to break the law and have to go to court and stand before a judge, it is not a wise or valid defense to say “well my neighbor said it was ok” or “everybody else is doing it” or “it made me happy and therefore it is ok.”   How far do you think these defenses will go?  Are they wise?  It is concerning that Paul is writing this to Timothy who is young in the ministry about believers.  Could this possible be true of believers?…before you think too much about that answer just remember who is the judge and that God’s word is truth.

Too many have, are, and will turn away from the Lord and His truth.  They will turn to myths because they medicate the conscious, making us numb to the disease (dis ease) within while it continues to rot and waste the life we could have in Christ.  Looking for a quick fix and not the cure may bring the illusion of comfort while the reality of death is at the door.  Many would like to live with a pleasant illusion than to face the reality and find life one both sides.

As for Timothy and us…

  • Keep your head in all situations-If not it will betray the wisdom and confidence we have in Christ
  • Endure hardship-tough times will come trust God
  • Do the work of an evangelist-share the gospel
  • Discharge all the duties of your ministry-complete the ministry you are called to.

Church Freedom-October 16, 2013

Church Freedom-October 16, 2013

Romans 12:1-21

Church Freedom

  • We need to understand church freedom.
  • We need to remember we are in the “Free Church” tradition.

Free to Follow Voluntarily

  • Early Baptists were concerned with the nature of the Church.
  • This is the idea behind Believer’s Baptism.
  • Emphasis on Local Church and Universal Church.

-Universal Church-all Christians.

-Local Church-Individual Churches

Free to Govern Obediently

  • Baptists wanted no outside control of local churches.
  • Responsibility must be present.
  • Baptists do practice democratic church polity.
  • Baptist churches are free to govern autonomously.

-They can plan their own style of worship.

-They can determine their own membership.

-Map their own mission strategy.

-Call their own ministers.

-Elect their own ministers.

  • Local Churches do not work together with common goals/projects.

Free to Worship Creatively

  • There is no “Baptist” way to worship.
  • Laity are involved in worship.
  • Baptism and communion/Lord’s Supper are the only two ordinances.  Ordained by Christ Himself.  Matthew 20:19-20; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25; Romans 6:3-4)

Free to Minister Responsibly

  • Should be inclusive-all races, gender, classes.
  • All members are ministers!
  • Jesus is our model-Philippians 2:7

Final Thoughts

  • For Baptists the individual is always central, but the individual is always in community.
  • When Baptists determined to baptize only people who have personally something that all Christians need:  they formed the church into an intentional faith community.
  • While other churches attempt to discern the will of the Lord for them in other ways, Baptists try to do so by allowing all members to share in the decision-making process.
  • Baptists believe that, because all believers are priests, it is the duty of all church members to determine the forms of worship that are most appropriate and meaningful for their congregation.
  • Because all believers are priests, all are called to participate in the ministries of the church.  Ideally, each member should participate in the ministry(ies) for which she or he has some gift.

 Final Thoughts

  • Church Freedom like Soul and Bible Freedom needs RESPONSIBILITY!
  • We must guard this freedom, teach it, stress it, practice it, or we will lose it.


October 13, 2013-A New Covenant

A New Covenant-October 13, 2013

Jeremiah 31:31-34; 2 Corinthians 3:7-11; 1 Corinthians 11:24-26

“The Lord Jesus Christ instituted the Lord’s Supper before His death.  Three of the four Gospels record the event:

“Then He said to them, “with fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.”…Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves.”…And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body which is given for you; do this in Remembrance of Me.  “Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “this cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is shed for you” (Luke 22:15, 17, 19-20; Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25).

The Messiah had come.

The law had been fulfilled.

The ultimate and final sacrifice for sin had been made.

No more animal sacrifice.

A New High Priest.

The veil in the temple was torn.

It was a new covenant all right.  A covenant means an “arrangement made by one party which the other party involved can accept or reject but cannot alter.”  God, the “Arranger” of the new covenant, was offering through His Son a new and better way.  We can accept or reject His offer but we can’t alter it.

“The Lord’s Supper is the only thing Jesus ever asked His people to do whereby they might remember Him.  Shall we deny Him this simple request?”-George W. Truett

What a Savior!  “For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it” (Hebrews 9:16 NASB).

At the Lord’s Table-and throughout our lives-may we have eyes only for the One who offered His life to save us.

As we remember…

First, remember by His sovereign will, He chose you.

Second, remember by His substitutionary death, He saved you.

Third, remember by His Spirit, He has sealed you forever.

Fourth, remember His steadfast love sustains you.

1 Corinthians  11:24-26

Some content from This Glorious Journey, by Dr. Charles F. Stanley

October 9, 2013-Let Christ Rule…In Your Community. Mentow/Quaker Revival Night 4

Let Christ Rule in Your Community

Matthew 5:13-16

God made and sustains us, despite the appearance of evil in the world.

Romans 9…Paul mentions that some of this is enduring that God may demonstrate His great mercy and that others may be save.

After Simon Peter referred to Jesus as the Christ, Jesus affirms Him and said that upon that profession of faith the church would be built, and that the Gates of Hell cannot withstand the church.

2 Peter also reminds us to understand the patience of the Lord as salvation to others.  It is a salvation that is obtained and expressed through the church.

Matthew 5:13-16, Salt and Light

He reigns through His people the saltiness of God’s people  is a flavor that points people to God.  (Salt is also a preservative)  So as it is with salt and light we should stand out in a community.  If we are standing out is it the message that we would want others to see?  Christians have always been a presence in the communities in which they live.  Do we make a difference in our community?

There is a power greater than sin, it is good and it is not because I’m good, but because God is good that people’s lives are transformed.  Do we just want to blend in and become so that the I look like the world and not Jesus.

In this life there is struggle and difficulty.  Do not be deceived, it is not God’s purpose that we should be happy, but that we glorify Him and find our happiness in Christ.

If God wanted us to be happy He could just take us all to heaven, yet we remain to glorify Him that others may come to saving grace in Christ.

Rev. David Timma, Pastor at Quaker Baptist Church, preached this night of revival, these were my notes of his message and are not an exacting account.

October 8, 2013-Let Christ Rule…In Your Church. Mentow/Quaker Revival Night 3

Let Christ Rule…In Your Church

2 Corinthians 5:6-6:2

There was once a man who left home heading to college.  While in college he met a woman who would later become his wife.  The man and his wife began their new life in the town where they went to college.  The years past and they had two children began to get involved in a local church.  The church was friendly and loving.  This family felt like it was both a place where they could be nurtured but also a place where they were encouraged to use the gifts that God had given them for His Kingdom.

The man and his family were pleased to be a part of this church.  After a special Christmas Eve Service the man was telling his wife how much the service reminded him of the services he used to go to as a boy in his local church.  His Father had died years ago, and that was the last time he was in that church.  His mother had moved away with his sister’s family for health reasons.  There just didn’t seem like a compelling reason to go back.  A few months later a friend called him about an upcoming high school reunion.  The man and his wife made plans to attend the reunion, one child now in college and the later on in high school stayed behind.

Once arriving there the couple enjoyed a great time, she got to meet more of his friends from high school and see a few of them again that had made it out to their wedding years ago.  On the drive back to the airport the man’s wife said maybe we have a few minutes and could ride by that church again, the one that meant so much to the man growing up.  As they pulled into the lot it was not immediately evident that there was anyone there.  The man remembered that office doors where usually open on the side, so he went around to the doors but they were locked.  He remembered often during the day the doors to the church would remain unlocked.  He told his wife that he wanted to walk around to the front.  As he climbed the steps something on the door caught his eye, but it looked like a promotion for a church event, and not thinking anything of it he reaches for the door handle and it too is locked.

A little confused he stood there for a moment and looked up at the door again, this time he actually read the sign it said, “Gone Out Of Business, because We Have Forgotten What Our Business Was!”  The man stood for a long time and eventually his wife came to look for him so they wouldn’t miss their flight and she found him there sobbing.  The church that had meant so much to him and lead him to the Lord had not led anyone anywhere for quite some time.  What a sad epitaph for the church…not that it had to die, but it had forgotten how to live.

So then my friends what is the business of the church?  What is the church to be about?  Let’s first begin with what is the church?


The church is not a place.  It is a people, the body of believers who share their faith in the person of Jesus Christ.

When we fall into the trap of looking at the church as a place, we easily separate ourselves from its mission because we thing of the church as a physical place to worship together instead of understanding the church as our identity with a specific purpose.  The church leaves in the cars that exit the parking lot after Sunday worship and carries on its work throughout the week.

The church is made up of those who have placed their belief-their faith-in the person of Jesus Christ.  Having established who the church is, Jesus commissioned those who believed in Him to “make disciples” (Matt. 28:19-20).  It has always been the work of the church to bring others to belief in Christ and to experience a personal relationship with Him.  Jesus came to save the lost.  Those who believed in Him became His church and took on the responsibility that comes with belief-the commitment to continue the work Christ began.

The mission of the church is to make disciples-to led people into a growing relationship with Jesus Christ.

When we think about where we are so far we have talked about the impact of Christ on our lives and in our families, and now in the family of faith, the church.  When we think about the theme let Christ Rule, it may be tempting to ask what is a church supposed to do?  Although it is in important question it is not the primary one.  What is the church supposed to be?  We must know who and whose we are before we can possibly know what to do.  Being precedes doing.  It is of little value to work without understanding who we are.  Sure the works will be good and maybe help some people, but if the source of the works are not established in our being first, although many may be good they are still the works of man not God.  The Hope of Glory is Christ in You.

Galatians 2:20 Paul reminds that we live and walk in Christ.  The source of the work is Christ and they are His works not ours.  Our work, even if it is good, if it is done for our glory and not His it is the very definition of vanity.  In building our own kingdoms in His name, we are neglecting the power and life of His true kingdom.  What are we willing to do for His Kingdom?

Our scripture tonight directs us to look at where we are.  Live by faith not by sight.  No matter where we are or what we are doing it should always be our goal to please God.  Be made aware that we are responsible for that what we have done or neglected toward the kingdom of Christ.  Jesus does not use the word church very often but one time that comes to mind is when Jesus asks the disciples who do others say that I am, then who do you say that I am, and Simon Peter responds quickly, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”  Jesus tells him that flesh and blood did not reveal that to him but God did.  Jesus continues with, “you will be called Peter and on this I will build my church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.”  What if that was us?  What if we can look at what was just said here and know that the Gates of Hell stand no chance against the testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.”

Jesus came to seek and save that which was lost.  John 3:16 is very familiar to most, “For God, so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish but have eternal life.  But John 3:17 is often unnoticed…For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”  It is difficult sometimes for churches to remember it is not about the building, it is difficult sometimes for long time believers to remember that they were once unbelievers.  Too many times we rush to accuse or condemn people about their life or their sins.  Telling a sinner all the horrible things that do that make them a sinner and not helping them to know what happens next about the love, mercy, and grace of Christ, says far more about us then it ever will those who we meet.  It is our responsibility to share Christ with others to reach out and be ministers of reconciliation for Christ as Christ reconciled us to Himself.

“It is risky to reach out to unbelievers.  It changes a church when newcomers are unlike the old-timers.  God’s work is seldom neat, clean, or free from problems.  Our world is changing around us.  All healthy organisms adapt or die.  The same goes for churches,” writes Anderson.  He continues, “The church of the twenty-first century is dealing with a generation that is discouraged, depressed, tired, lonely, and feeling guilty.  They are more interested in learning what to do about their sins and struggles than being told they are sinners and struggles.”

V. 11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men.  If you know God you should be trying to persuade others.  It is the work of the church it is the commission of Christ in Matthew  28:19ff Therefore, as you go make disciples of all nations…not just the people who look like us or have similar interests but all means all.  It also says make disciples not “church members” so to say, or converts we can check off at the next denominational meeting, but instead vibrant soul-winners for Christ, who have grown in maturity, wisdom, and stature.  We are to teach them, not just reach them!  Part of the problem with the church today is that in most cases the ones who are reaching folks for Christ are content to get them to the waters of Baptist, and then leave them to drown in a pool of shallow faith and doctrine.  At the moment of commitment our works as the body is not done, it is just really getting started.  We also do not have to do this alone, Jesus reminds them that He is there with them even until the very end of the age.

Give them life and help them to spread that life to others.  We were a product of the saving work of Christ sacrifice, and we being brought from death to life should celebrate and share, helping to give life to the world around us.  Will each of us commit to allowing Christ to rule and reign in our churches?  It will be scary, we will have to give up power and control, and but wait isn’t it Christ church to begin with.  Why would we do such a thing, v. 14 Christ’s love compels us…v.15 and those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

Do not look at people with eyes of the world, when we were unsaved we looked at Christ the same way.  Anyone who is in Christ is a new creation; the old is gone, the new has come!  Hallelujah what a message of hope for the hopeless today, why would we not shout it from the mountain tops.  V. 18  This newness if “all from God”  it is His work of salvation in Christ and He has given us the ministry of reconciliation.  We are now ambassadors for Christ, His representatives caring the weight of his promise to a foreign land.  “He is reconciling the world to himself in Christ and is not counting men’s sins against them.  What a wonderful great good news, that we should be telling folks about, don’t worry about if this church or that gets credit, or a denomination or association, because no one can take credit for the God’s sized work of salvation save God alone, and He gets all the credit and glory for His wonderful saving grace.  Think of the brother, sister, or neighbor that you will or won’t be spending eternity with.

Paul’s language gets more carried away as he uses words like appeal, and implore.  We implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.  We implore the world on behalf of the one who died to make it all possible, if we do not allow Christ to rule in our church then we will never have the heart to implore anyone of anything because we ourselves do not have the heart to follow.  In neglecting to share we are essential wasting the expansive grace of Christ and in not so many words telling the world that we are ok if the go to hell.

If we are going to take the salvation we have in Christ seriously and his Lordship we must look to share Christ with others.  If we the church are not already effectively doing we must begin to ask tough question about what may need to change to be effective for Christ.  Change is scary and many do not want to do it, talking of money, or tradition, or you fill in the blank, but at the end of the day Christ tells them as they go to make disciples and teach, and do not be afraid because Christ is with us, it is His  work.

Nothing is more relevant to our day than the message of salvation through Christ Jesus.  However, unless we are willing to make the changes that will equip the church to do its work, the relevancy of the gospel will likely never reach those who are lost.

As we change, we must also stay the same.  Contradictory?  Not really when you consider that the church has one mission and many avenues by which to accomplish it.  (like Dr. Towns analogy are we falling behind the drag racer, or worse are we not even on the same path).  The key was recognition of the mission and willingness to change.  The book of Acts is replete with illustrations of the church changing.  The mission stayed the same, and as the church changed, it grew.  (We need to be doing mission and ministry from imagination, not memory).  As long as we keep our priorities straight and continue in the work Jesus commissioned us to do, we will seek better ways of reaching the lost for Christ without being threatened by the thought of change.

The price is steep, Christ having no sin because sin for us, dying in our place.  There is no magic eraser, we truly have freedom from our sin in Christ because the penalty of that sin was paid in full.  But there is also this, that in Christ we will be made righteous to God.  His sacrifice paid for our sin, and gave us His own righteousness before God.

Dr. George Hunter observed, “Effective churches recognize a number of things concerning reaching unsaved people.  Among these are three that stand out in my mind:  (1) know that people who aren’t disciples are lost, (2) know that lost people matter to God, and (3) see the church as primarily a mission to lost people rather than a gathered colony of the faithful.”

“The ministry is not called to fit the church’s structure; the structure exists to further effective ministry.”-George Barna

The church needs to be the ambassadors of the Kingdom of Christ, finding as many ways possible to save lives, rather than cheapening the sacrifice of Christ.  Don’t receive the grace of God in vain.  I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation.

October 7, 2013-Let Christ Rule…In Your Family. Mentow/Quaker Revival Night 2

Let Christ Rule…In Your Family

Ephesians 5:15-6:9

The context of the family in this text is Christ and the church.

We need to understand and comprehend what God desires for the family and not just fall into the pattern of the world.

This is also not about being perfect in marriage or finding a checklist to determine if we are doing things okay.

The question is not about how happy am I in marriage, there will be times when you are and times when you are not so happy.  But through relationships and particularly in marriage and family relationships  we have the opportunity to show God’s grace, mercy, and supremacy to each other and to the world.

We are here to serve one another and God has given us our families to live into this reality of service each day.  We serve one another not out of obligation but out of our love for Christ.

It is not the specific acts of service but rather the spirit with which we serve one another.  Anyone can angrily serve another, it is more about the way in which we do so.

Headship means responsibility and leading by example.  We have the opportunity to be a redemptive presence to one another especially when the other is at their worst.  The two are one flesh and no one hates his own body, but loves it, nourishes it, and cherishes it.  The two lives are intertwined, they are one.

Love each other for the sake of Christ’s rule in our lives not for our own benefit.  In doing so in mutual submission serving one another the blessing is not lessened but rather multiplied.

Rev. David Timma, Pastor at Quaker Baptist Church, preached this night of revival, these were my notes of his message and are not an exacting account.